b'For our final conversation in 2021, Luke chats with Devin Dabney, who is a Senior Contributor to The Climbing Zine. Devin is a poet, rapper, essayist, and host of the American Climbing Project podcast. In this conversation Devin and Luke \\u201cnerd out\\u201d on the intersection of hip-hop and climbing, as well as the writing process,\\u2026'