When Miranda July entered her early forties, she noticed a grim feeling emerge. \u201cIt wasn't coming from me,\u201d she said, \u201cI guess it came from this lack of imagery, or stories, or even just basic medical information about what was going to happen next with my body.\u201d The dearth of information and near absence of cultural mythology about perimenopause and menopause became the catalyst for her novel All Fours, which came out in May and quickly became a New York Times bestseller.\xa0\nIn this episode, Miranda talks about the unease that inspired the book and speculates about what the future could look like if more people openly discussed this crucial chapter of life. We also hear from listeners who share their experiences with perimenopause and menopause.\xa0\nThe interview with Miranda was recorded live in San Francisco for City Arts & Lectures.\nYou can check out a great profile of Miranda, which is referenced in the episode, here:\xa0\nhttps://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/05/20/miranda-july-profile\xa0\xa0\nPodcast production by Cameron Drews.\nDeath, Sex & Money is now produced by Slate! To support us and our colleagues, please sign up for our membership program, Slate Plus! Members get ad-free podcasts, bonus content on lots of Slate shows, and full access to all the articles on Slate.com. Sign up today at slate.com/dsmplus.\nAnd if you\u2019re new to the show, welcome. We\u2019re so glad you\u2019re here. Find us and follow us on Instagram, and you can find Anna\u2019s newsletter at annasale.substack.com. Our new email address, where you can reach us with voice memos, pep talks, questions, or critiques, is deathsexmoney@slate.com.\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices