We know that every part of the criminal justice system needs transformational change.\xa0We\u2019ve heard this about police, prosecution, the courts, and prisons.\xa0But what about public defense systems?\xa0
We talk to Jonathan Rapping, founder and president of Gideon\u2019s Promise, a national organization supporting public defenders, and the author of \u201cGideon\u2019s Promise: A Public Defender Movement to Transform Criminal Justice,\u201d (Beacon Press, 2020).\xa0