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Criminal Injustice returns with new episodes in September 2021. Until then, we're reposting some of our favorite interviews. This episode originally appeared September 17, 2019.

Urban violence kills thousands of Americans every year.\xa0It accounts for almost three quarters of the murders in the U.S., and it traps a huge number of people in poverty, blight, trauma and despair.\xa0What if there was a way cut murderous urban violence \u2013 by half?

Guest\xa0Thomas Abt\xa0says it can be done with the tools we have now. He\u2019s the author of\xa0\u201cBleeding Out: The Devastating Consequences of Urban Violence \u2013 and a Bold New Plan for Peace in the Streets.\u201d\xa0