Today in episode 33 of Couple Things with Shawn and Andrew, we\u2019re chatting with contemporary Christian musician Matthew West and his incredible wife, Emily.\n\nTopics we cover:\n- First impressions (Matthew and Emily were engaged after 3 months!)\n- Pursuing a friendship first\n- Using laughter to get through hard times\n- Loving who you are, not what you do\n- Enduring hardship and finding gifts in trials\n- Refusing to fail\n- Being an example for daughters\n- How not to succumb to the pressure of perfection\n- Forgiveness and grace\u2014grace for each other, grace from God\n\nIf you haven\u2019t yet, please rate Couple Things and subscribe to hear more. And if you have suggestions/recommendations for the show, send us your ideas in a video format \u2013 we might just choose yours! Email us at couplethingspod@gmail.com.\n\nLast but not least, learn more about Matthew, Emily, and all they do at the links below.\n\n\u2013\u2013\u2013\n\nMatthew West \u25b6 https://www.matthewwest.com\n\n\u201cHello My Name Is\u201d \u2013 book \u25b6 https://www.matthewwest.com/books/hellomynameis\n\n\u201cBrand New\u201d \u2013 album \u25b6 https://www.matthewwest.com/music/brandnew\n\nThe Matthew West Podcast \u25b6 https://www.matthewwest.com/podcast\n\nFollow @matthewjwest on IG \u25b6 https://www.instagram.com/matthewjwest/\n\nFollow @mrsmwest on IG \u25b6 https://www.instagram.com/mrsmwest/\n\n\u2013\u2013\u2013\n\nWe\u2019re supported by the following companies we love! Make sure to check them out using our links below.\n\nGlossier! Get a glowy, dewy look and 10% off your first order \u25b6 https://glossier.com/podcast/EASTFAM\n\nBest Fiends! Download Best Fiends FREE on the Apple App Store or Google Play. Learn more \u25b6 https://bestfiends.com/games/best-fiends/\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices