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Christopher Hall and Walter Flakus of Stabbing Westward jump in the Mazda 3 for conversation before taking the stage at Metro to headline Cold Waves 2017 at Metro.

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Here\'s what we talked about:

• "We were not considered (the cool band in Chicago in the 90s)"
• Die Warzau\'s role in helping Stabbing Westward in the early days
• Christopher\'s lingering issues that need to be worked out on stage
• Cold Waves and the issue of depression as it relates to artists
• The importance of Wax Trax Records!
• What Ed Sheeran accomplished that Christopher Hall should have done instead
• Relationship advice: Stay broken up forever.
• The initial split: "The music industry was collapsing around us... and we did not like each other any more."
• The schism between Walter and Christopher toward the end of the band\'s first run
• The simple pleasures of blow jobs and IPA beer
• The tragedy that brought Christopher and Walter back together
• Is the Dreaming still a band? And why are they like Tones on Tail?
• Starting a new band is like selling blenders at Costco
• Christopher is a fan of the Mazda 3\'s interior
• Stabbing Westward\'s delayed gratification White Castle experience