Nathan and Doug open with some second-look reflections on Ohio State's 54-7 victory at Indiana. Then discussion turns to the lost luster of Saturday's Penn State game after its nine-overtime loss to Illinois. Is Michigan the second-best team in the Big Ten, and does it have a case for being ranked ahead of Ohio State? How many teams would swap their starting quarterback out for Kyle McCord if they could? And the beginnings of a conversation we'll revisit later on eliminating Big Ten divisions. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices