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b'KJ-52 and Chunjay sit down for coffee in Florida and reflect on their experiences in hip-hop and the Christian hip-hop subgenre.\\n\\xa0\\nLittle Cuban cafe, on KJ discovering Cuban colada coffee. KJ does not enjoy pour over coffee.\\nChunjay eating a Cubano sandwich.\\nOn what KJ-52 is up to: crowdfunding new album, videos, documentary. Adding public speaking to rapping.\\n\\u201cI\\u2019m coming from the perspective of a 42 year old man. I\\u2019m not coming from where I was when I was 25 and came into the industry\\u2026.I\\u2019m an old MacBook Pro with updated software.\\u201d\\nKJ-52\\u2019s struggle after his record deal with Essential ended. Shopping to Nashville record labels. Ended up with Tooth & Nail/Uprok.\\xa0\\nKJ on Flicker Records: \\u201cThen they turned round and signed you guys, and I was so ticked off.\\u201d\\n\\xa0\\n\\u201cRevenge of the Nerds\\u201d by KJ-52 with Pigeon John from the KJ-52 Remixed album.\\n\\xa0\\nOn figuring out his niche, and finding a way forward. On catching criticism for things he did.\\nOn his \\u201cbackpack rapper\\u201d origins with Sons of Intellect and Shadow of the Locust.\\n\\u201cI always looked at every record as \\u2018starting over.\\u2019\\u201d\\nOn his platform, not just \\u201cyouth group rapper.\\u201d\\nHistory: Goatee led him to Todd Collins. Todd took him to Essential.\\nOn the KJ-52/Royal Ruckus tour of Maui in 2001.\\nOn Royal Ruckus: \\u201cYou two were the most interesting, hilarious, weird people I\\u2019d ever hung out with in a long time. And I think because of that, I was like, \\u2018I\\u2019m really drawn to these guys, cause they\\u2019re so bizarre, but so like, genuinely themselves.\\u2019 And I think that resonated with me.\\u201d\\nOn getting sunburnt in Hawaii.\\n\\xa0\\n\\u201cCheese Rappers in Paradise\\u201d (Demo) by Royal Ruckus from Seventeen Candles. Available free at noisetrade.com/royalruckus.\\n\\xa0\\nOn crossing paths with each other in Nashville, TN and Bakersfield, CA.\\n\\u201cI\\u2019ve played in Bakersfield so many times.\\u201d\\nHeadlining the \\u201cWhite Privilege Conference\\u201d in the middle of Iowa.\\nAwkward experiences on tour.\\n\\xa0\\n\\u201cMoment of Zen\\u201d by Royal Ruckus from The Summer of the Cicadas LP. Listen for KJ-52 and T-Bone reference in the song.\\n\\xa0\\n\\u201cI helped Kirk Cameron get through the priority line at Delta.\\u201d\\n\\xa0\\n\\u201cShipwreck\\u201d by Cookbook and Uno.Mas from The Robertson Bullies EP.\\n\\xa0\\n\\u201cOnce you\\u2019re about 10 years in [the music industry], you become irrelevant.\\u201d\\nOn a near-career shipwreck. Paraphrase: I went from getting a couple grand shows to getting $250 a show locally, if I was lucky.\\nFinding alternate ways to survive and stay in his own lane. Graffiti. School assemblies. Being a pastor. Rapping still.\\n\\u201cIt\\u2019s like I wrecked the ship, took the wood, and built a house.\\u201d\\n\\xa0\\n\\u201cFight Music\\u201d by KJ-52 featuring Lecrae and Propaganda, from the album, Mental.\\n\\xa0\\nOn KJ\\u2019s lack of facial hair.\\nKJ loved street tacos in Baja, Mexico, and Korean-fusion tacos in San Francisco.\\nKJ recommended podcasts: What She Wants (formerly Ask Women), Sexy Marriage Radio, Stuck in the 80s, and The Cypher Show.\\nKJ on women: they don\\u2019t want men to be nice, they want ALPHA.\\n\\u201cI realized how technically challenged some of my fanbase is. So I was like, \\u2018How can I make this as simple as possible?\\u2019\\u201d\\nKJ52 Podcast.\\xa0@kj52 at twitter and facebook, @kj52instagram for insta.\\n\\u201cLet me say, and I dig your podcast, too. Because I like how you explore back stories.\\u201d\\nOn having something to say, and less to lose. On having John Reuben on his documentary and not being able to use it.\\n\\u201cIt Takes Two\\u201d by Rob Base and DJ E-Z Rock was the game changer song for KJ-52. The second would be \\u201cWelcome to the Terradome\\u201d by Public Enemy. Third: \\u201cAin\\u2019t No Joke\\u201d by Eric B. and Rakim. De La Soul: \\u201cMe Myself and I.\\u201d\\nShouts to Propaganda, Pigeon John, Limp Bizkit, Kid Rock, Pillar, Pax 217, Rebecca St. James, producer Tedd T., Todd Collins, Flynn Adam, Krum (Playdough), Jesus Shack, Spirit West Coast, Kirk Cameron, Tako Cheena in Orlando, NF vs. Lecrae album sales, John Reuben, Cookbook from LA Symphony, Jars of Clay, more.'