Published: May 20, 2023, 2:31 p.m.
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The New Yorker\'s Adam Gopnik chats with Trey Elling about THE REAL WORK: ON THE MYSTERY OF MASTERY. Topics include:
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\\n - The book\\u2019s goal (0:38)
\\n - The importance of learning new skills (3:26)
\\n - Defining \\u2018mastery\\u2019 (6:12)
\\n - The mystery of performance (8:19)
\\n - Jamy Ian Swiss and the real work (13:15)
\\n - \\u201cThe method is not the trick\\u201d (16:33)
\\n - Learning about mastery from David Blaine (19:11)
\\n - The mystery of identity and intention (23:53)
\\n - The challenge of Adam learning to drive a car in his 50s (29:07)
\\n - How learning to drive in NYC changed his perception of the city (32:38)
\\n - Courtesy waves (34:54)
\\n - The mystery of interiority (36:24)
\\n - The mystery of meaning (40:17)
\\n - The mystery of late style (46:22)
\\n - Overcoming a shy bladder (49:32)
\\n - Whether learning how to draw altered Adam\\u2019s perception as an art critic (55:13)
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