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Multi-platinum record producer-turned-neuroscientist Susan Rodgers chats with Trey Elling about THIS IS WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE: WHAT THE MUSIC YOU LOVE SAYS ABOUT YOU. Susan is best known for her work with Prince during his peak creative years (1983-87). 

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• Susan\\u2019s unique path from award-winning sounder engineer and record producer to neuroscientist (1:43)
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• How Miles Davis changed her perspective on listening to music (3:40)
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• The beauty of record pulls (7:36)
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• The messy \\u201cbrilliance\\u201d of The Shaggs (11:37)
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• What we visualize when we listen to music (15:52)
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• Why a preference for \\u2018real\\u2019 versus \\u2018abstract\\u2019 isn\\u2019t consistent across artistic mediums (19:34)
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• The connection between novelty and an appetite for risk (22:21)
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• A McGill study on the link between musical novelty and mental rewards (28:41)
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• Why the melody is a record\\u2019s heart (29:55)
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• Songs whose lyrics and instrumentation tell different stories (33:36)
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• Ambiguity as a valuable lyrical tool (34:52)
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• How the Barenaked Ladies fooled Susan\\u2019s brother with fictitious lyrics (37:06)
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• Rhythm as Susan\\u2019s favorite musical dimension (38:29)
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• Evidence that some animals can experience musical rhythm (41:25)
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• Explaining timbre (45:48)
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• How Susan received a lesson on the power of timbre from Prince with \\u201cWhen Doves Cry\\u201d (48:43)
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• The importance of synthetic listening to music producers (53:18)
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• What happens in the brain when we feel \\u2018love at first listen\\u2019 with a song (58:26)
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