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This week, Jeff and Jenn talk for a loonggg time about Bookshop.org, but also manage to squeeze in some consideration of audiobooks becoming more like podcasts, a big publisher dipping its toe into Spotify, and much more. This episode is sponsored by: This Tender Land by William Kent Krueger The Great Courses Plus The Mermaid and Mrs. Hancock by Imogen Hermes Gowar Taina by Ernesto Quiñonez Links discussed in this episode: Follow-up Apple TV+ stuff, the adaptation of Ghostwriter Follow-up: audible pausing caption feature Bookshop.org EpicReads curates audiobook list on Spotify Speaking of audiobook innovation Wizard of EarthSea coming to TV Margaret Atwood's Handmaid's Tale Sequel Is Already Being Developed by Hulu TD Grade One Book Giveaway Waffle House names a poet laureate, whose mission is to travel to rural Georgia schools and promote the arts See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.