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Maddy Butcher and Jec Ballou meet for the ongoing segment called On the Fence, in which the two discuss horse-related musings. In this episode, Butcher and Ballou chat about experts and open-mindedness and how to keep things fresh if you're a learner or a teacher. Or both.\\xa0
Also, a listener question on conditioning with a great answer from Jec.\\xa0
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