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From the very start of the COVID pandemic, test and trace has been the mantra. But here in the UK it was started, then abandoned as the number of cases rose too high to manage. It\\u2019s now been reintroduced and we\\u2019re all being encouraged to download the \\u2018NHS COVID-19\\u2019 phone app which can detect whether you\\u2019ve been near an infected person using Bluetooth technology. How have other countries around the world been managing to find, test, trace, isolate and support (FTTIS) their COVID patients? And what lessons can we learn from them? Professor Michael Hopkins at the Science Policy Research Unit (SPRU), University of Sussex Business School is part of an international team of experts in science policy, social science, medicine, epidemiology and global health that has analysed and compared national testing systems in 6 countries: Spain, South Korea, South Africa, Ireland, Germany and us, in June, July and August. Michael Hopkins told Marnie Chesterton that we all have something to learn.

Over the last few weeks, we\\u2019ve been stealing a glimpse into this year\\u2019s shortlisted contenders for the annual Royal Society\\u2019s Insight Investment Science Book Prize. Linda Scott is an Emeritus Professor from the University of Oxford and a consultant to the World Bank Group on gender economics. Her book, The \\u2018Double X Economy - The Epic Potential of Empowering Women \\u2019 analyses the economics of gender inequality and the hidden economics which is foundational to the more recognised and acknowledged global economics, that is, the work - much of it unpaid - done by women.

Presenter \\u2013 Adam Rutherford

Producer \\u2013 Fiona Roberts

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