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Best-selling novelist R.O. Kwon\\u2019s New York Times essay about grief in times of uncertainty was the inspiration for this conversation. In an emotionally profound exchange, she is joined by Pulitzer Prize winners Anthony Doerr, whose novel All the Light We Cannot See illuminates the ways people try to be good to one another; and Viet Thanh Nguyen, whose The Sympathizer captures the ambivalence and humanity of \\u201ca man of two minds.\\u201d Moderated by Danielle Evans. \\xa0