Seek Safely: Jean Brown & Dr. Glenn Patrick Doyle on the Self-Help Industry

Published: Oct. 30, 2023, 8 a.m.

Today\u2019s episode is sponsored by BetterHelp.\xa0

The self-help book industry alone is expected to grow from $10.5 billion annually to $15 billion by 2025. Of course, with that kinda dough floating around, a raging demand for personal growth has led to a plethora of tools aimed at achieving it. Unfortunately, there are people that seek to take advantage of this, leading to dangerous\u2014or even deadly\u2014consequences.\xa0

When Kirby Brown was only 38 years old, a man named James Arthur Ray pushed her to stick out an incredibly hot sweat lodge session in Sedona, Arizona. A self-proclaimed \u201cguru,\u201d Ray allegedly urged participants to disregard their physical discomfort, even ignoring their pleas for help. Tragically, Brown and two other individuals lost their lives during the hellish experience.\xa0

On today\u2019s episode, we\u2019re joined by two guests: Jean Brown, who is Kirby\u2019s sister and the co-author of This Sweet Life: How we lived after Kirby died, a memoir she wrote with her mother about what happened to Kirby and its larger implications for the self-help industry. Joining her is Dr. Glenn Patrick Doyle, a psychologist who has teamed up with Jean and the SEEK SAFELY non-profit org and podcast. Founded by George and Ginny Brown, Kirby and Jean\u2019s parents, SEEK SAFELY is aimed at passing legislation within the self-help industry to prevent abuse in the future.\xa0

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You can follow Dr. Doyle on Instagram, Facebook, and X.

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You can follow Jean Brown on Instagram and X.

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You can follow SEEK SAFELY on Instagram, Facebook, and X.\xa0

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NOTES:

Dr. Glenn Patrick Doyle is a licensed psychologist who works with people struggling with complex trauma and dissociative disorders, including survivors of coercive control, cult abuse, medical trauma, clergy abuse, religious trauma, and childhood abuse and neglect.\xa0

Jean is a writer and work-from-home-mom to two young children. She has Bachelor's degrees in political science and writing from Loyola University Maryland, and a Master\u2019s in Public Policy and Public Administration from Concordia University in Montreal. She is active in creating content for SEEK Safely Inc.\u2019s website, social media, brand outreach, and legislative effort. Jean lived in Thailand and has traveled extensively, including treasured memories of traveling with her sister Kirby. She grew up in the US but has been in Canada since 2007.

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