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Arnold Schwarzenegger likes to focus on life\u2019s victories. That makes for an interesting contrast with Marc, a self-described \u201cobstacle guy.\u201d Arnold and Marc find that their differing approaches to taking on the world make for good conversation about generational change, political awakenings and being useful, which is the subject of Arnold\u2019s new book. They also discuss bodybuilding, James Cameron\u2019s vegan advice, and Arnold\u2019s rivalry-slash-friendship with Sylvester Stallone.

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