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The writings of underground filmmaker Jack Smith serve as a starting point for Phil and JF's second tour of the trash stratum. In their wanderings, they will uncover such moldy jewels as the 1944 film Cobra Woman, the exploitation flick She-Devils on Wheels, and (wonder of wonders) Hitchcock's Vertigo. The emergent focus of the conversation is the dichotomy of passionate commitment and ironic perspective, attitudes that largely determine whether a given object will turn out to appear as a negligible piece of garbage... or the Holy Grail. By the end, our hosts realize that even their own personal trash strata may give off shimmers of the divine.

Jack Smith, Flaming Creatures
\nRobert Siodmak (director), Cobra Woman (1944)
\nJack Smith, "The Perfect Filmic Appositeness of Maria Montez"
\nRoger Scruton, English philosopher
\nMystery Science Theater 3000 (TV series)
\nKenneth Burke, American literary theorist
\nAlfred Hitchcock (director), Vertigo (1958)
\nFyodor Dostoevsky, Notes from Underground
\nCharles Ludlam's Theater of the Ridiculous
\nMel Brooks (director), High Anxiety (1977)
\n"Ironic Porn Purchase Leads to Unironic Ejaculation", The Onion (1999)
\nJames Carse, Finite and Infinite Games
\nJorge Luis Borges, "The Approach to Al-Mu'tasim"
\nHerschell Gordon Louis (director), She-Devils on Wheels
\nAndr\xe9 Bazin, What is Cinema?
\nErik Davis, "The Alchemy of Trash"
\nDavid Lynch, Mulholland Drive
\nWilliam James, The Varieties of Religious Experience
\nPhil Ford, "Birth of the Weird"