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I originally recorded this conversation with Luke sometime last fall; however, I didn't initially upload it here because I thought I wasn't at my sharpest in this exchange. Recently, though, my reflections on Scripture have made me think of Matthew Korpman's appearance on the Reluctant Theologian podcast, on which he discussed his book Saying No to God. It was a brilliant performance, one that has had a lasting effect on me. Rather than record a new reaction to it, I thought I would air the original conversation I had with Luke about it. Luke is characteristically perceptive here, and his command of scripture shows the extent to which he has taken the Bible seriously in attempting to answer many of the same questions as Korpman. The link to Korpman's original conversation with Ryan Mullins on the Reluctant Theologian podcast can be found here: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5idXp6c3Byb3V0LmNvbS8yNjU4ODAucnNz/episode/ZDQxOTlmZGYtNGVmMi00NGMxLTgyMDMtMWE0ZDM2YjFkY2I1?ep=14