In this episode, we take a different approach than usual- we bring a conversation we were having offline with our friend Brian Dilkes about a paper that tries to define the key variables that predict a \u2018successful\u2019 faculty member. We talk about some really important flaws of the paper, how to define \u201csuccess\u201d, and what impact really means and how one could/should/would measure it. \n\nRead more about this episode at https://plantae.org/taproot-podcast-s1-5esessile-measuring-mentoring-and-other-bleeps-with-brian-dilkes/\n\nShow Notes:\nPlanet Dilkes websites:\nhttps://ag.purdue.edu/cpb/\nhttps://ag.purdue.edu/biochem/Pages/Profile.aspx?strAlias=bdilkes\nhttps://www.purdue.edu/gradschool/pulse/groups/profiles/faculty/dilkes.html\nhttps://twitter.com/BrianDilkes\nhttps://openwetware.org/wiki/Dilkes\nThe paper we are discussing: https://peerj.com/articles/1262/\nPaper that defines success as whether your faculty advisor thought you were successful: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3923635/\nLetter Liz and colleagues wrote in response: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4072567/\n\nFor those who wish to make the metric the target (DON\u2019T DO IT!!!!):\nLiz Google Scholar Page: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=L7pWt14AAAAJ&hl=en\nIvan Google Scholar Page: https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=M68cB1AAAAAJ&view_op=list_works&gmla=AJsN-F6Vs2Z0EJFPnUog3VS8ExzbJsd9xu6_RRBmJm-SoiXtlVV3GXBGmTzqXHLc-enjsrR6JWux3L1oXYkH5tqiBI7FIDdSUFnW-KI320MNnLDDgpCVQRA\nBrian Google Scholar Page: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=Rkx4gSoAAAAJ\nhttps://profiles.impactstory.org/u/0000-0003-2799-954X\nhttp://www.researcherid.com/rid/C-9293-2012\n\nTwitter handles:\n@ BrianDilkes\n@ehaswell\n@baxterTWI