While I'm a big believer and proponent of opening the doors to let everyone find frustration and satisfaction at work, as a middle-ages white guy, I always feel out of my depth. Luckily, I know a guy who lives and breathes diversity. We have yet another rambling conversation on what its going to take to change minds and the world. I'm a huge fan of Torin Ellis, but I'm also his friend, so I'm tickled purple to bring him onto the podcast. And for real: if you get the chance to hear him speak, do it. The man's got the mojo.\n SHOW NOTES Torin Ellis: torinellis.com, @TorinEllis\n Places I'm speaking: MRA Bettendorf Transform\xa0-\xa0Boston RecFest\xa0-\xa0London SRSC - Philly MRA Minneapolis Recruitcon - Nashville MidwestTechRecruit\xa0-\xa0Chicago