In E133 of #thePOZcast, Laurie Ruettimann and I discuss career origins, the changing industry of human resources, and how to know when it\u2019s time for a change in your personal life and career. Staying true to the name of her podcast, Punk Rock HR, Laurie has never followed a traditional path and has always prioritized her autonomy. She describes how she\u2019s been able to maintain that independence even through her time in corporate america, largely by finding a way to connect with people through communicating her story. She\u2019s been blogging, podcasting, and writing for years, and that\u2019s become her true realized passion.\n\nWe get into the inspiration behind her latest work, Betting on You, which is a book that she wrote to dissect the mindset that she\u2019s honed and put into action to create a life and career that she\u2019s truly fulfilled by. She reflects a lot in this book and in our conversation about what her corporate gig in HR was doing to her-- leaving her exhausted, eating poorly, and generally just depleted and discontent. After a self-described mental breakdown in the airport, she set her mind on building a more healthy future for herself.\n\nBut she didn\u2019t do it all at once. She strategized an exit from her job and entrance into her new career, and spends time detailing how people who are feeling the same way should do so. We talk about the current state of affairs for how people are handling COVID, and how human resources will be changed. We also each give our predictions for how things might not be so different after all, and how people are likely to want to collaborate in person when it\u2019s safe to do so.\n\nIf you\u2019ve been looking for honest conversation about personal development, tune into this episode of The POZcast!\n\nIf you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review/rating: https://ratethispodcast.com/thepozcast\xa0\n\nThe POZCast is brought to you by our friends at Interseller - the prospecting + outreach platform of recruiters and sellers. Whether you\u2019re doubling down on business development or recruiting talent, Interseller does all the heavy lifting of finding contact data, automating the email and follow-up process, and syncs all that rich data into 20+ CRMs and ATSs. Reach out and get going in a 2-week *free* trial today and let them know you heard about them from Adam on the POZCast.\xa0\n\nCheck out a free demo today! https://bit.ly/2Fbm/BZ\n\nFor more, please visit www.thePOZcast.com Thanks!