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It can be quite tricky to pivot from one career path in the film industry to another path. What should you do when you start climbing one ladder and realize you want to jump onto another ladder?\xa0\n\nIn today\u2019s episode, No Film School\u2019s Charles Haine, GG Hawkins, and Jason Hellerman discuss:\n\nLadders - avoid getting on the wrong one\xa0\n\nNot wanting to be put into a box\n\nHow having a gap in your resume is not a bad thing\xa0\n\nThe best ladder to jump on if you don\u2019t know which ladder to climb\n\nBuilding our identity on our craft\xa0\n\nHow you should market yourself if you are a \u201cmulti-hyphenate\u201d professional\n\nWhy you should consider having multiple websites\n\n\n\nPlus, we share a short conversation with Eva Longoria, who is a great example of someone who has climbed different ladders in the industry. Eva is not only a talented actor, but she is also a producer and director. Eva offers words of advice for new filmmakers and she describes what it was like to direct her recent film, Flamin' Hot. The film is based on the inspiring true story of Richard Monta\xf1ez, the Frito Lay janitor who channeled his Mexican American heritage and upbringing to turn the iconic Flamin\u2019 Hot Cheetos into a snack that disrupted the food industry and became a global pop culture phenomenon. The film will be available for streaming on June 9.\xa0\n\n\nMemorable Quotes\n\n\u201cThe higher you climb, the easier it is to hop to other verticals.\u201d [1:58]\n\n\u201cThere\u2019s this intense pressure to build our identity on these external things.\u201d [15:25]\n\n\u201cThere\u2019s not a recipe. You just do it. You learn by doing.\u201d [27:04]\n\n\u201cIf you have a device like that, you gotta set it up early. You gotta set up the rules of your world right at the top.\u201d [36:44]\n\n\n\nResources:\nFlamin\u2019 Hot trailer\n\n\nFind No Film School everywhere:\nOn the Web\nhttps://nofilmschool.com/\n\nFacebook\xa0\nhttps://www.facebook.com/nofilmschool\n\nTwitter\xa0\nhttps://twitter.com/nofilmschool\n\nYouTube\xa0\nhttps://www.youtube.com/user/nofilmschool\n\nInstagram\nhttps://www.instagram.com/nofilmschool\n\nSend us an email with questions or feedback: podcast@nofilmschool.com!\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices