A number of years ago, my Twitter pinged. Then it pinged again. All of a sudden, a whole host of people were following the show, and when I giddily found the source, it was the soulful and stylish Avery Trufelman, longtime 99% Invisible producer, currently of Articles of Interest, and fashionista tastemaker, who had pronounced The Lonely Palette her favorite art history podcast. Bestill my heart! It was the beginning of a beautiful friendship, a kinship between co-founders of a mutual admiration society where the stories of stuff - art, objects, design, things, everything they say you can\u2019t put on the radio - reigned supreme.\n\nAvery and I popped into our respective closets to chat about writing, audio, art, fashion, the trappings of podcast success, storytelling in a heated political climate, trusting your voice, that infamous cerulean blue scene in The Devil Wears Prada, ranking the heroes of epic poetry, and much more. \n\nEpisode webpage:\nhttps://bit.ly/3jtcOBl\n\nMusic used:\nThe Blue Dot Sessions, \u201cSwapping Tubes\u201d\nThe Kinks, \u201cDedicated Follower of Fashion\u201d\n\nSupport our year-end fundraiser!\nbit.ly/3An5jSd