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Nobody has been more aggressive about using the coronavirus crisis to seize power than Hungarian strong man Viktor Orb\\xe1n. Orb\\xe1n declared a state of emergency and has been ruling by decree. He has also instigated criminal penalties for spreading false information about the coronavirus, and his Fidesz party has effectively dissolved Parliament. Joining Benjamin Wittes to discuss the decline of Hungarian democracy is Andr\\xe1s Pap, a Hungarian scholar of constitutional law and a professor at Central European University\'s nationalist studies program in Budapest, and Anne Applebaum, essayist, author, and scholar of Eastern Europe, nationalism and the former Soviet Union. They talked about whether Orb\\xe1n\'s seizure of power is as big a deal as it initially appears, about where Orb\\xe1n stands in the pantheon of right wing populists worldwide, and about what, if anything, the European Union is likely to do about it.

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