Jim Baker and Susan Landau on 'Moving the Encryption Policy Conversation Forward'

Published: Oct. 9, 2019, 3:31 a.m.

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Encryption and going dark splashed across the headlines in the wake of the 2015 San Bernardino attack, when the FBI and Apple went to court over access to an encrypted iPhone recovered from one of the perpetrators. Since then, little progress has actually been made on the encryption issue. Privacy advocates and technology companies are locked in a stalemate with law enforcement, with the former arguing that encryption is vital for cybersecurity, while latter has argued that law enforcement agencies need some way to lawfully access encrypted data in certain criminal or national security cases. A working group set up by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and Princeton University is endeavoring to break this impasse\\u2014or at least crack it\\u2014with a new paper entitled \\u201cMoving the Encryption Policy Conversation Forward.\\u201d

Benjamin sat down with two members of the working group\\u2014Susan Landau of Tufts University and Jim Baker of the R Street Institute\\u2014to discuss the paper, the goals of the group, and how to reconcile seemingly incompatible views.

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