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\nI am joined by renowned UFO researcher & author, Grant Cameron for over 2 hours and 30 minutes to discuss;
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\nHis new book "Beyond Managing Magic"
\nHow the book changed and why
\nSecret keepers in UFOlogy
\nTom DeLonge's journey
\nCurrent state of Disclosure
\nWhy it isnt 'ET'
\nAnd much much more
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\nGrants website; https://whitehouseufo.blogspot.com/
\nGrants youtube; https://www.youtube.com/c/whitehouseufo
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\nAndy