S2 Ep39: Discussing Cybersecurity Around AI with Tiffany Ricks from HacWare

Published: March 2, 2023, 10:46 a.m.

The conversation kicks off with an article about ChatGPT and whether it poses a cybersecurity risk. \u201cIt is exciting to see how fast this has taken off and how people are adopting an AI tool,\u201d Tiffany says. \u201cBut it\u2019s also being adopted by bad actors and cybercriminals. They\u2019re using it to make their emails look real and personalize them at scale,\u201d she tells us. \u201cOthers have learned to exploit ChatGPT to create malware, which is code that tries to gain access to data that it shouldn\u2019t have.\u201d\xa0
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\nTiffany explains what polymorphic malware is and why we should be concerned about it \u2014 it\u2019s malware that adapts, learns, and changes, making it harder to detect.
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\nWe discuss spear phishing \u2014 the process of sending hyper-personalized phishing emails that ChatGPT is facilitating \u2014 before moving on to the next article about the \u201czero trust\u201d approach to cybersecurity. Tiffany explains that the real problem is not stopping phishing messages from coming in but stopping people from clicking on the links cybercriminals send.\xa0
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\n\u201cWe have to shift people away from always wanting to be helpful,\u201d she says. \u201cAnd the other thing we have to do is recognize that cybercriminals are going to try to exploit our needs. It\u2019s all about not trusting the message or phone call that comes in.\u201d
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\nThe final piece focuses on cybersecurity predictions for 2023. Tiffany explains that small and medium-sized businesses tend to be easier targets for cybercriminals as they usually have fewer security policies in place. We discuss tensions that this may cause between companies and their employees and the potential for state-sponsored cyber attacks.
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\nTiffany then tells us more about the inspiration that led her to found HacWare and the work they do before we move into the lightning round to discover what she thinks is the evillest Tech application and what her predictions are for the future of Tech.
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