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Professor Michael Fraser sits with me to talk about the AMP foundation Tomorrow Makers award, morality in a post-truth world, artificial intelligence, and the capacity of human beings for good and evil. I also talk to some of the other Tomorrow Makers, and say thanks to you guys. \n\nMichael Fraser can be emailed at fraser.michael@bigppond.com.au\n\nbut you're probably better off going through me at http://alicefraser.com