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One week from today, Boris Johnson has a big decision to make. Is it time to declare 'freedom day' on the 21st of June? Or could the government be walking into another mistake?

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Guests: 

- Henry Zeffman, chief political correspondent, The Times.

- Ravi Gupta, professor of clinical microbiology at the University of Cambridge and member of NERVTAG.

- Adam Finn, professor of paediatrics at Bristol Medical School, head of Bristol Children's Vaccine Centre and member of the JCVI.

- Robert Read, professor of infectious diseases at the University of Southampton and member of the JCVI.

- Christina Pagel, professor of operational research at University College London and member of Independent SAGE.

- Tim Spector, professor of genetic epidemiology at King's College London and principal investigator of the ZOE Covid symptom study app.

Host: Manveen Rana.

Clips from: Times Radio, Channel 4 News, BBC, Sky News.

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