In today's episode, we welcome Shams el-Din Rogers to discuss sustainable sewing. Shams shares what she learned about sustainability while living in Egypt. She discussed the effects of textile industries on the environment, recycling of clothes, camper van wall insulation, the role of home sewing in the Black community, and the creation of a society where people are healthy and safe. We also share some insights on the evolution of slavery in the USA and the harming of children by the textile industries. Tune in to learn more about this engaging conversation.