For this week\u2019s episode of Working Overtime, hosts Nate Chinen and June Thomas spotlight an idea from Rick Rubin\u2019s latest book, The Creative Act: A Way of Being, about experiencing art on multiple levels. June has experience with the daily repetition of a poem to gain a greater understanding of it, while Nate explains his methods of \u2018deep listening\u2019 with music. To have a more acute grasp of a piece of art, you sometimes have to just let it be, before returning and processing it.\n\nDo you have a question about creative work? Leave a message at (304) 933-9675 or email us at working@slate.com.\xa0\n\xa0\nPodcast production by Kevin Bendis and Cameron Drews.\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices