Everybody loves pandas\u2014and China knows it. As we say goodbye to the National Zoo\u2019s pandas, we look back at 50 years of \u201cpanda diplomacy\u201d and consider its uncertain future.\n\nGuest: E. Elena Songster, author of Panda Nation: The Construction and Conservation of China\u2019s Modern Icon and professor of environmental history of modern China at St. Mary\u2019s College of California.\n\nIf you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence\u2014and you\u2019ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work.\n\nPodcast production by Elena Schwartz, Madeline Ducharme, Anna Phillips, Paige Osburn, and Rob Gunther.\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices