On today\u2019s episode of Hear Me Out: PSL (not the drink).\n\nClaudia de la Cruz cannot, mathematically, win the presidency. But she\u2019s running anyway\u2026 because the two-party system doesn\u2019t lend itself to real representation or the public interest.\n\nClaudia joins us to make the case for voting socialist, because the parties with all the power aren\u2019t as different as they want you to think.\n\nWe\u2019ll also share an important update about the future of Hear Me Out at the end of the episode. After that, please feel free to email the show: hearmeout@slate.com\n\nPodcast production by Maura Currie.\n\nWant more Hear Me Out? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking \u201cTry Free\u201d at the top of our show page. Or, visit slate.com/hearmeoutplus to get access wherever you listen.\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices