On today\u2019s episode of Hear Me Out\u2026\xa0great, but not enough.\n\nMental health is on a lot of minds as we enter the holiday season \u2014 a time when we know many people struggle.\n\nSo this week, we talk candidly about what it means to treat mental illness\u2026 and what it should mean, if we want that treatment to be effective, long-lasting, and sensitive. Spoiler: psychiatry and psychology are not the panaceas you might think.\n\nErin Grimm, author and mental health advocate, joins us.\n\n** NOTE: This episode contains candid discussion of mental health crises and treatment. Listener discretion is advised; if you or a loved one need help, you can contact the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline 24/7 by calling or texting 988. You can also visit the lifeline online, and explore more resources from the National Alliance on Mental Illness.\n\nIf you have thoughts you want to share, or an idea for a topic we should tackle, you can email the show: hearmeout@slate.com\n\nPodcast production by Maura Currie.\n\nYou can skip all the ads in Hear Me Out by joining Slate Plus. Sign up now at slate.com/hearmeoutplus for just $15 a month\xa0for your first three months.\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices