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Mike is joined by Aussie Ben Crothers, who is the author of Presto Sketching and a design strategist at Atlassian Software. Ben and Mike discuss Ben\u2019s book, the process of getting published, How sketchnoting is changing, plus tools and tips. \n\nSPONSORED BY\nThe Sketchnote Workshop. A full-day hands-on training that expands your team\u2019s creative thinking. Mike Rohde guides your team through practical activities to expand your team\u2019s confidence - http://sketchnoteworkshop.com\n\nSUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES:\nSubscribe to the podcast through iTunes and leave a nice review or rating if you like the show - https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/sketchnote-army-podcast/id1111996778\n\nRUNNING ORDER\n* Intro \n* Who Ben is and his origin story\n* The beauty of co-design \n* Teaching (and the struggle with YouTube)\n* The origins of Ben\u2019s Book and writing on the train\n* How Sketchnoting is growing\n* Sketchnoting in education\n* Robots stealing Jobs\n* Instagram Sqaures \n* The value of pointless activities (and Steve Jobs)\n* Tools\n* 3 Tips\n\nLINKS\n* Ben\u2019s Twitter - https://twitter.com/bencrothers\n* Ben\u2019s Website - http://bencrothers.com/\n* Presto Sketching Twitter - https://twitter.com/prestosketching\n* Presto Sketching Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/prestosketching/\n* Presto Sketching Website - http://prestosketching.com/index.html\n* Atlasian - https://www.atlassian.com\n* Presto Sketching book - https://www.amazon.com/Presto-Sketching-Drawing-Brilliant-Thinking/\n* Co-design - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participatory_design\n* Agile method - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agile_software_development\n* Jeff Patton - https://www.oreilly.com/pub/au/4727\n* O\u2019Reilly media - https://www.oreilly.com/\n* An example of Instagram squares - https://www.instagram.com/p/BlguxSYgE9h/?taken-by=prestosketching\n* Draw Me a Kraken - https://www.instagram.com/p/BewEjexHYS2/?taken-by=prestosketching\n* Mike\u2019s Cards - https://www.instagram.com/p/Be9om5-FCmU/?taken-by=rohdesign\n\nTOOLS \n* Whiteboard\n* MUJI Store - http://www.muji.com/\n* MUJI Markers - http://www.muji.us/store/stationery/pen-pencils/other-pens.html\n* Square notebooks from Tiger/Flying Tiger - https://flyingtiger.com\n* Copic markers - https://www.copicmarker.com/\n* Neuland Markers - https://us.neuland.com\n* iPad Pro 12.9 - https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-ipad/ipad-pro\n* Procreate - https://procreate.art/\n* Microsoft Office Lens Android - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.office.officelens&hl=en\n* Microsoft Office Lens iOS - https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/office-lens/id975925059?mt=8\n\nTIPS\n* Don\u2019t be afraid to copy\n* Draw something you enjoy!\n* Set yourself challenges\n\nCREDITS\n* Producer: Jon Schiedermayer\n* Show Notes: Chris Wilson\n\nSUPPORT THE PODCAST\nBuy one of Mike Rohde\u2019s books and use code ROHDE40 at Peachpit.com for 40% off - http://rohdesign.com/books\n\nPAST PODCAST SEASON LINKS\n* Season 1 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-se1\n* Season 2 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-se2\n* Season 3 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-se3\n* Season 4 - https://soundcloud.com/sketchnote-army-podcast/sets/sketchnote-army-podcast-se4