Marine biologist, diver and author Dr Helen Scales takes Dr Karl deep beneath the waves to share her passion for life in the ocean. Helen talks about her new book \u2018Spirals in Time\u2019 on the secret life of shells. Hear about \u2018clacking\u2019 oysters, the legend of the Golden Fleece (sea silk) and a creature resembling a pinecone crossbred with a slug. There\u2019s mathematics in the spirals of shells, slave trading in the history of the cowrie shell and just imagine a Harry Potter golden snitch of the sea\u2026 it\u2019s real and has an incredibly important role to play in ocean life.