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Back in August of 2021, I got a text from my dear friend Laura Cathcart Robbins:\n\n\u201cSara, I know this is crazy, but I\u2019m going on the Dr. Phil show on Wednesday to talk about CRT and they\u2019ve just asked me if I know of any white moms who might be willing to speak as an ally and I thought of you.\xa0Would this be something you would consider?\u201d\n\nI thought for a solid 30 seconds, felt like I might vomit, and then said YES.\xa0\xa0\n\nThe next day, I flew to LA to record the show.\xa0\xa0\n\nIt was a whirlwind event around a huge topic: Should Critical Race Theory be Taught in Schools?\xa0\n\nThis week, I asked Laura if she would come on the SMA (for the 3rd time - WHOOP!) to have a conversation around our experience and around Critical Race Theory in America.\xa0\xa0\xa0\n\nIf you\u2019re not familiar with Laura, she is the host of the popular podcast, The Only One In The Room (you must subscribe!), and author of the forthcoming Atria/Simon& Schuster memoir, STASH (due out in spring of 2023). She has been active for many years as a speaker and school trustee and is credited for creating The Buckley School\u2019s nationally recognized committee on Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Justice. Her recent articles in Huffpo and The Temper on the subjects of race, recovery, and divorce have garnered her worldwide acclaim. She is a LA Moth StorySlam winner and currently sits on the advisory boards of the San Diego Writer\u2019s Festival and the Outliers HQ podcast Festival.\n\nIn this conversation, Laura and I dig into:\n\nWhy each of us said YES to appearing on Dr. Phil\n\nSome of the behind the scenes surprises while taping the show\n\nWhat Critical Race Theory actually is\n\nOur takeaways from the conversation we had with 6 other guests on the show - all of whom had strong opinions and some very opposed to ours\n\nWhat the media is actually talking about when they talk about \u201cCritical Race Theory in schools\u201d\n\nSteve Bannon\u2019s involvement in creating an intentionally divisive conversation for Conservatives to more easily pave the road to the White House\n\nWhat is actually being taught in schools that is being misrepresented as Critical Race Theory\n\nWhy age appropriate race education is crucial in schools\n\n\nLinks mentioned:\n\nJoin me in Jen Lumanlan\u2019s 10 week Taming Your Triggers workshop: shamelessmom.com/taming\n\n\nConnect with Laura: theonlyonepod.com/\n\n\nPodcast: The Only One In The Room\n\n\nLaura on YouTube\n\n\nLaura on IG\n\n\nPlease find our sponsor information here: shamelessmom.com/sponsor/\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices