Little different episode for a Bachelor show that's...definitely different. Comedian and author Kate Casey — host of the podcast Reality Life with Kate Casey — joins us to help break down the franchise's frequently uncomfortable foray into the world of music, Listen To Your Heart. Will any of these stage hopefuls emerge with a legitimate music career? Can heartthrob Ryan hang with the likes of John Mayer? Is Michael Todd serious? Check out Reality Life on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or where ever you listen to podcasts. - Instagram: @katecaseyca - Twitter: @KateCasey Timestamps: 7:00 What we we expecting? 10:00 The franchise leaning in to the social media/"wrong reasons" aspect 13:00 Premise of LTYH 19:00 Early standouts 21:00 Is Michael Todd serious? 25:00 Ryan and Jamie date 33:00 Kate's rumor mill 34:00 Matt and Rudi 40:00 Bachelor transactions 43:00 Cocktail party 48:00 Rose ceremony 53:00 Misc. questions Listen on: - Apple Podcasts - Spotify - Google Podcasts Follow us on: - Instagram - Twitter - Facebook - TikTok Text the mailbag: (773) 234-7794 Check us out on Podchaser: podchaser.com/rosecast New merch designs: TeePublic.com/rosecast rimandab.com For information regarding your data privacy, visit acast.com/privacy