PT465 Shauheen Etminan, Ph.D. & Jonathan Lu Beta-carbolines, Haoma, and Syrian Rue: Rediscovering Ancestral Knowledge
In this episode, David interviews Shauheen Etminan, Ph.D. and Jonathan Lu: Co-Founders of Magi Ancestral Supplements.
Through studying ancient Zoroastrian writings and 2,000 year-old Chinese texts in search of compounds and formulations forgotten by history, Etminan and Lu co-founded drug discovery company VCENNA in 2019 to use extraction technology to isolate these compounds. This led to an understanding of the health properties behind beta-carbolines, which led to their nootropic company, Magi Ancestral Supplements. They talk about the early days and experimenting on themselves, how beta-carbolines create dream-like states, and how their research sent each of them further into their own heritage, and asking themselves: How do we remember what our ancestors knew?\xa0
They discuss espand, haoma, Syrian rue, and how common Syrian rue is in both Iranian culture and psychedelic history; what is a drug vs. what is a supplement; common threads they\u2019ve seen across different cultures and how we may be repeating some of their mistakes; Etminan\u2019s recent ayahuasca experience with the Santo Daime church; and of course, some of Magi Ancestral Supplements\u2019 products and their expected effects \u2013 from deep meditation to lucid dreaming to even mild hallucinations. You can get 10% off any product using code PT10 here.