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We're closing out 2022 with something new: A Poured Over Double Shot with\xa0host Miwa Messer.\xa0

Cormac McCarthy doesn\u2019t really do interviews \u2014 If you want to know about the work, it\u2019s on the page, he says.\xa0Jenny Jackson and Chip Kidd are part of the team that publish McCarthy; Jenny\u2019s been his editor for the last eight years, and Chip has designed McCarthy\u2019s hardcover jackets from 1992\u2019s\xa0All the Pretty Horses\xa0all the way up to this fall\u2019s\xa0The Passenger\xa0and\xa0Stella Maris, along with the recent reissues of McCarthy\u2019s backlist including\xa0Suttree,\xa0Blood Meridian\xa0and\xa0No Country for Old Men. They join us to talk about McCarthy\u2019s surprising new books \u2014 his first since Pulitzer Prize winner The Road\xa0(2006), getting the jackets right and more in the first half of this Poured Over Double Shot episode.

When a pal asked Cheryl Strayed to take over writing the \u201cDear Sugar\u201d column in\xa0The Rumpus, her first thought was, \u201cWho am I to give people advice? I'd never taken a class in psychology or gone to therapy or any of that stuff. But also, I was afraid specifically to write an advice column on the internet, because it was the age of snark\u2026\u201d Cheryl's open-hearted, non-judgmental letters to readers redefined the\xa0medium \u2014 and inspired two podcasts,\xa0Dear Sugars\xa0and\xa0Sugar Calling. Some of that work is collected in\xa0Tiny Beautiful Things, which was adapted into an acclaimed stage play by Nia Vardalos and is coming to Hulu next year as a series starring Kathryn Hahn (WandaVision). Cheryl joins us to talk about trust and empathy, finding freedom by writing letters to strangers, what she\u2019s working on now and more in the second half of this episode.

Featured Books:

The Passenger by Cormac McCarthy

Stella Maris by Cormac McCarthy

All the Pretty Horses by Cormac McCarthy

Torch by Cheryl Strayed

Wild by Cheryl Strayed

Tiny Beautiful Things (10th Anniversary Edition) by Cheryl Strayed

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Poured Over is Produced and hosted by Miwa Messer and mixed by Harry Liang. We\u2019re taking a break until 1/3/23, but we\u2019ll be back with new episodes Tuesdays and Thursdays (with occasional Saturdays) then.