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b'Tracie and Rich welcome a surprise guest, graphic designer and sitting president of the Type Directors Club, Elizabeth Carey Smith. They discuss Liza Minnelli, Drew Barrymore, and how Tracie recently got swept up into low-level influencer drama. Also, they finally got their hands (or eyes) on a Farrah Abraham scat porn, which they will be discussing on the next bonus episode. For more info on that, go to patreon.com/potpsychology'