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A new papal history book (City of Echoes) has just been released, and Bry had the opportunity to interview the author, Dr. Jessica W\xe4rnberg!\xa0\nIn this episode, we discuss all things pope - the history of the papacy, the history of the city of Rome, and how the two are inextricably linked.\xa0\nJessica W\xe4rnberg: https://jessicawarnberg.com/https://twitter.com/jessicawarnberg\xa0\nFind City of Echoes: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/City-of-Echoes/Jessica-Warnberg/9781639365210\nCity of Echoes on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/City-Echoes-History-Popes-People/dp/1639365214/ref=sr_1_1?crid=P9OBCDM6DZD9&keywords=jessica+warnberg&qid=1694483147&sprefix=jessica+warn%2Caps%2C301&sr=8-1\xa0\n\xa0\nSupport Pontifacts:Patreon: \xa0https://www.patreon.com/pontifactspod\nPaypal: paypal.me/pontifactspodcast\nKo-fi: https://ko-fi.com/pontifactspod\nAmazon Wishlist: https://tinyurl.com/pontifactswishlist