It's one of Washington's worst kept secrets: Public lands have needed money for years. But politics and other priorities have kept Congress from taking real action – until yesterday. Host Anthony Adragna has a meta-conversation with himself to explain how the Great American Outdoors Act finally passed. Anthony Adragna is an energy reporter for POLITICO. Carlos Prieto is a Politico podcast producer. Jenny Ament is the senior producer of POLITICO audio. Irene Noguchi is the executive producer of POLITICO audio.