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Tola has a conversation with the Co-founder and Co-Ceo of Lanterne. Lanterne launched a free app in April 2020 during the COVID lockdown, which shows how crowded stores are so users can choose a less busy time to visit or a less busy alternative store. His PhD is in Economic Geography from the London School of Economics. He has previously worked as an economist for the Institute for State Effectiveness in Afghanistan and Puerto Rico, and for the Australian Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet