PGX Pharmacists Series Part 1 of 4, Interview with Dan Krinsky, BS, MS, RPh, FAPhA
PGX Pharmacists Series line-up
1/28/22, Dan Krinsky, BS, MS, RPh, FAPhA
2/11/22, Sue Paul, RPh
2/25/22, Mariam S. Yasin, student (PharmD and MS PGX Candidate)
3/11/22, Jamie Wilkey, PharmD
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Daniel Krinsky is an entrepreneur and pharmacist who is passionate about advancing patient care and the pharmacy profession. He recently started two businesses whose respective missions and visions are focused on each of these areas. The first business, PGx101, is directed towards educating healthcare providers in the area of pharmacogenomics and personalized medicine. The second, EduCare4U, is focused on patient, student and healthcare provider education and enhancing patient care. Mr. Krinsky is currently an Adjunct Professor at the LECOM School of Pharmacy, serving as a course director, lecturer, and student advisor. Mr. Krinsky\u2019s areas of expertise include community pharmacy practice, drug information, patient counseling and education, OTCs, natural products, and developing and implementing medication therapy and disease state management programs.
Mentioned in this episode
Dan Krinsky, BS, MS, RPh, FAPhA | LinkedIn\xa0
EduCare4U website
PGX101 website
EduCare4U, LLC: Overview | LinkedIn
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St. Vincent (St. V\u2019s) Medical Center Toledo, OH\xa0
The University of Toledo (UT) College of Pharmacy (Toledo, OH)
AJHP American Journal of Health-System Pharmacy
Auburn University Harrison School of Pharmacy\xa0
Ohio Northern University College of Pharmacy
Natural Therapeutics Pocket Guide
Drug Nutrient Depletion Handbook
Palm Beach Atlantic University Gregory School of Pharmacy
PGX101 Training February 26 and 27, 2022
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Highlights from the interview
Dan and I met at Medipreneurs in Asheville, NC.\xa0 We have a mutual acquaintance:\xa0 my Uncle Tom Titkemeier (see The Pharmacist\u2019s Voice Podcast Episode 3).\xa0 Dan was one of Uncle Tom and Aunt Janet\u2019s interns at St. V\u2019s in Toledo while attending pharmacy school at The University of Toledo College of Pharmacy.
We discussed the chronological progression of Dan\u2019s career.\xa0 Why did Dan pick pharmacy school?\xa0 His Dad\u2019s best friend was a community pharmacist.\xa0 Dan wanted to go into healthcare and own his own business, so he decided to go to pharmacy school.\xa0
Dan went to grad school at UT.\xa0 He got a MS Degree in Hospital Pharmacy.\xa0 The focus was on teaching and research.\xa0
After graduating from UT with his MS Degree, Dan left Toledo for a job developing clinical services in NC.\xa0 It didn\u2019t work out.\xa0 He moved on to another job, which he discovered by searching the \u201cHelp Wanted\u201d ads in AJHP (American Journal of Hospital Pharmacy).\xa0 A position for a clinical coordinator for the pharmacokinetics service at the University of Alabama Hospital in Birmingham was advertised.\xa0 Although Dan felt unqualified, he ended up joining the Drug Resource Team at the University of Alabama Hospital in Birmingham as the coordinator for the pharmacokinetics service.\xa0 He expanded the volume of consults the role formerly served.\xa0 Dan also taught Auburn Pharmacy Students.\xa0 It was a good experience, but he was on-call all the time.\xa0 The stress and time commitment weren\u2019t right for him and his family, so he and his family moved back to Ohio. \xa0
Dan then worked for Kaiser Permanente and made his first connection to Lexicomp while there.\xa0 Lexicomp has been part of Dan\u2019s life ever since.\xa0
In the mid 1990\u2019s, Dan became the 1st pharmacist in the US to hold a shared position with a college of pharmacy and a community pharmacy:\xa0 Ohio Northern University College (ONU) of Pharmacy and Ritzman Pharmacy.\xa0 Dan provided MTM services at Ritzman\u2019s before MTM had a name!\xa0 Since his time at ONU, Dan has helped NACDS replicate the shared position he had at ONU.\xa0 Today, there are hundreds of shared positions in the US.
Dan co-authored 2 books on natural products for Lexicomp.\xa0 They are
Dan left Ritzman\u2019s Pharmacy and went to work at Lexicomp. Lexicomp felt like a family.\xa0 It had a great company culture with company outings to Cedar Point and more. \xa0
Dan developed a RX Wiki resource. \xa0
Dan held a shared faculty position with NEOMED and Giant Eagle.\xa0 When Dan left that position, he could have retired, but he didn\u2019t!\xa0 Instead, he co-founded PGX101 and founded EduCare4U.
How did Dan get into PGX?\xa0 He took the Test2Learn\u2122\ufe0f Train the Trainer PGX Course so he could develop a PGX elective course at NEOMED and incorporate PGX into therapeutics models.\xa0 The Test2Learn\u2122\ufe0f program was developed in conjunction with the University of Pittsburgh and NACDS (National Association of Chain Drug Stores).\xa0 According to Dan, The University of Pittsburgh is a national leader in PGX research and practice.\xa0 What came out of it was meeting Sue Paul, RPh and later spreading the word about PGX to the pharmacy profession to improve the care pharmacists provide to patients.\xa0 Sue Paul, RPh and Dan Krinsky train pharmacists on PGX.\xa0 They update the PGX101 program every time they deliver it.
The profession of pharmacy has given so much to Dan that he wants to give something back.\xa0 Education is one way to give back and pay it forward. \xa0
Being good listeners (a sounding board for patients) allows us to find out how we can help our patients.\xa0 Pharmacists are the most accessible healthcare providers and the most knowledgeable on drug therapies and deprescribing.
Dan shared a story about visiting a patient at home.\xa0 Dan said, \u201cHome visits are eye-opening.\xa0 You learn about your patients.\u201d\xa0 We talked about tools to help patients help themselves, such as motivational interviewing and cognitive behavioral therapy.\xa0
Pharmacogenomics in Dan\u2019s own words:\xa0 Applying a patient\u2019s genetic make-up to current and future drug therapies.\xa0 PGX is a tool that can lead to better outcomes.
How do PGX101 students find out about the program?\xa0 LinkedIn, networking, podcasts, conferences (Medipreneurs), and organizations (APhA and OPA). \xa0
Is PGX 101 in-person or online?\xa0 It is only online using Zoom (as of January 2022).\xa0 There are two components:\xa0 15 modules for 12 hours of CE.\xa0 8 hours of live programming:\xa0 4 hours on Saturday, 4 hours on Sunday.\xa0 To learn more, visit PGX101 online.
How much does PGX101 cost?\xa0 $495 for all 20 hours.\xa0 Consider it an investment in education.
PGX201 is a growing community \u201cBeyond the Certificate.\u201d\xa0 Membership is 3 months or 12 months.\xa0 Benefits include monthly webinars and newsletters, one-on-one consultations with Sue Paul and Dan Krinsky, guest speakers, and more.\xa0
Carol Bell, PharmD (KY Pharmacist) is working on a PGX Pharmacists Registry.\xa0
According to Dan, a Kentucky teacher\u2019s retirement program provides PGX testing as a benefit for their plan.\xa0 The ROI has been demonstrated in the form of direct economic benefits.\xa0 This can serve as a model for other organizations to follow.\xa0 I suggested that this is a \u201cbright spot\u201d ala the book Switch: How to Change Things When Change is Hard by Chip and Dan Heath.
EduCare4U is the umbrella company for all the services Dan offers.\xa0 Examples:
- Individual consultations with patients, some of whom have PGX testing.
- Writing.\xa0 For example, a monthly column for Pharmacy Today on self-care and OTC\u2019s. \xa0
- Consulting.\xa0 For example:\xa0 monograph reviews for Lexicomp.
- Surgery center inspections
- Expert witness for attorneys
- Part-time work in two pharmacies in his area
- Guest lecturer at the Palm Beach Atlantic University Gregory School of Pharmacy
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We spoke about Dan\u2019s expert witness role.\xa0 The first time he served this role was early in his career while working in Alabama.\xa0 The first attorney Dan helped recommended Dan do more expert witness work.\xa0 Dan told a story about an intense deposition that took hours.\xa0
Dan serves as a pharmacist on medical mission trips to Honduras each year with his local Catholic Church.\xa0 He has been doing it for 17 years, and he loves it.\xa0 Dan got started with his mission work by covering for a pharmacist who got sick and had to drop out of the trip. \xa0
Who was on the Mission Trip?\xa0 High school students who serve as Spanish-language interpreters, doctors, dentists, nurses, optometrists, pharmacists, and others who want to serve.\xa0 They see 3,000-4,000 patients in one week and dispense 15,000-20,000 prescriptions.
Dan gave advice for Pharmacist Dads:\xa0 Have a career, but be present for family.\xa0 Always prioritize your family first.\xa0 Dan wanted to be present for milestones, coaching his kids, attending events, going on vacations, and taking his wife out for their anniversary.\xa0 \u201cYou never get those moments back.\u201d Dan said, \u201cCareer is important, but pharmacy will always be there.\u201d
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