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This week\u2019s guest is author, commentator, and Slavic Linguistics professor at the University of Oslo, IM Atle Gronn. Atle\u2019s most recent book, Games and Goals: The Fascinating Chess and Football Careers of Simen Agdestein has recently been released in the English language and is one I have been greatly looking forward to reading. It did not disappoint, as it provides a revealing biography of one of the most compelling figures in modern chess history. GM Simen Agdestein, in addition to being a Norwegian chess legend, and the childhood trainer of Magnus Carlsen, Simen was a supremely talented athlete who played for the Norwegian national soccer team. As a strong player from the same generation as Simen, Atle bore witness to Simen\u2019s rise, fall, and resurgence, and also witnessed and contextualizes GM Magnus Carlsen\u2019s relentless ascent to the top of the chess world.\xa0 There are many lessons we all can learn from the stories that Atle shares and I greatly enjoyed chatting with him about his book.\xa0\n\n\nGames and Goals is available from Amazon and other booksellers,\xa0\nGames and Goals: The Fascinating Chess and Football Careers of Simen Agdestein books\xa0\nAnd you can view a Free excerpt here:\nhttps://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9186.pdf\n\n\n\n0:01- Thanks to our sponsor Chessable.com- If you sign up for Chessable pro, please use the link below to help support Perpetual Chess:\nhttps://www.chessable.com/pro/?utm_source=affiliate&utm_medium=benjohnson&utm_campaign=pro\n\n0:02- What made Simen Agdestein a \u201cmythic figure\u201d in the 1980\u2019s? How did he go from beginner to national Norway champion in 4 years?\xa0\nMentioned: Tarjei Svensen\u2019s Article on the most recent Norwegian Championship:\nhttps://www.chess.com/news/view/15-year-old-copies-magnus-carlsen-norwegian-champion\n\n0:07- How did Simen become an elite athlete without training extensively? What was his style like as a footballer?\n\n15:00- How did Atle\u2019s collaboration with Simen come about?\xa0\n\n22:00- How would Atle describe Simen\u2019s chess style? What traits of Simen can be seen in Magnus Carlsen (his student)?\xa0\n\n29:00- Atle describes his 2005 game against Magnus Carlsen, which became a famous win for Magnus.\nhttps://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1348050\n\n\n32- Why was Atle initial skeptical of Magnus\u2019 talents?\xa0\n\n37:00- How did injuries change Simen\u2019s careers?\n\n46:00- What did Simen do for income during his years when both careers suddenly ended?\n\n52:00- We discuss chess books and the topics of Otle\u2019s prior books, which were written in Norwegian.\xa0\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices