Whats the difference between the astral realm and the imaginal realm? Is sleep paralysis the gateway to either? This week, longtime listener/first-time caller John Gillanders narrates his journey through the world of psychedelics, magick, and the isolating ontological shock of hyper-communication. Lucid dreaming, OBEs, gay and straight ghost molestationthis show has everything we never talked about and more! Plus, John invokes the name of Jeffs latest buzzword: sigil magick.This ones chalk full of goodies to discuss and debate. Jeff and Jer waste no time in their own episode-length after chat.