In their second radio broadcast for the Paratopian Papacy, Jeff & Jeremy speak to Dr. Dennis McKenna, brother of Terrence McKenna, about DMT, psilocybin mushrooms, ayahuasca, shamanism, and alien abductions. What are the differences? What are the connections?--Hear what he has to say as he takes us on a journey with his brother through the jungles of the Amazon and into the shamanic experience.