188. The Path to Sustainability is Equity
Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future.
In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres and Paul Dickinson interview climate leaders Sandrine Dixson-Decl\xe8ve, Co-President of global issues think tank the Club of Rome (the Club), and Johan Rockstr\xf6m, Joint Director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (Potsdam).
Our esteemed guests discuss the 50th anniversary of the Club\u2019s groundbreaking report on the implications of continued worldwide expansion, \u201cLimits to Growth\u201d (Limits), and their recently published collaborative report \u201cEarth for All: A Survival Guide for Humanity (Earth For All).\u201d
Serving as both a sort of update to \u201cLimits,\u201d and a new solutions manual, \u201cEarth For All\u201d goes deep into the interrelationships between global stress points, the consequential scenarios that could lay ahead of us, and the policy recommendations we need to save our future.
It\u2019s a fascinating conversation that covers planetary boundary science, dynamic systems modeling, the social tension index, and whether we can reach aspirational and equitable goals for humanity within our environmental boundaries. Importantly, we explore whether a planetary solution is possible without addressing systemic inequity.
Of course, be sure to stick around for music this week from brand new father/son duo Emrys + Clay.
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Sandrine Dixson-Decl\xe8ve, Co-President of the Club of Rome
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Explore The Club of Rome and the original landmark report (including a free download), \u201cLimits to Growth.\u201d An updated version is available here.
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Johan Rockstr\xf6m, Director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research
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Listen to a previous episode featuring Rockstr\xf6m about the race to zero.\xa0
Learn about the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research
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Read more or get your own copy of \u201cEarth for All: A Survival Guide for Humanity.\u201d
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