156. Why It's "Not Too Late" with Rebecca Solnit and Thelma Young Lutunatabua
Reactions to the now infamous presentation of the suspended HSBC Head of Responsible Investing, Stuart Kirk, is still a source of considerable outrage here at Outrage + Optimism.\xa0 Kirk\u2019s presentation entitled "Why investors need not worry about climate risk" peddled such dangerous climate disinformation that it prompted Christiana to refer to it in her brilliant op-ed in Investor Week as one of the most irresponsible public statements we have heard in years. In this week\u2019s episode brace yourself for Paul\u2019s no holds barred account of what he really thinks about Stuart Kirk\u2019s views and hear Christiana expand on why opinions like Kirk\u2019s threaten the emergence of stakeholder capitalism. Tom\u2019s insightful analysis further links the growing movement of incumbents rallying against \u2018woke capitalism\u2019 with the corporate disclosure of emissions and climate risk that is about to be regulated in the US and the EU.
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Thankfully our main interview this week features a previous, much loved, Outrage + Optimism guest Rebecca Solnit, and the inspirational Thelma Young Lutunatabua whose Not Too Late project offers us the tools to tackle this current wave of disinformation, and provides tangible stories of hope. Hear how the project aims to invite newcomers to the climate movement, as well as providing climate facts and encouragement for people who are already engaged but weary.\xa0 Listening to these two incredible women speak about Not Too Late \u2018rang a bell of truth in our souls\u2019 as Thelma so beautifully puts it in the interview. \xa0
Sit back and be sure to enjoy the remarkable track Preacher Man by Mica Millar.
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Make sure to visit the Not To Late project launched by Rebecca Solnit and Thelma Young Lutunatabua
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Mentioned links from the episode:\xa0\xa0
Not So Moral Money?\xa0 -\xa0 link to the Business Green article Christiana mentions in the episode that deunks Stuart Kirk's presentation. \xa0 \xa0
On Being podcast episode with Tarana Burke speaking about the need for \u2018revolutionary grace\u2019 mentioned by Thelma.\xa0
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